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08-29-2012, 12:54 PM
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#1 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Richton Park, Illinios Posts: 2,987
| What are your thoughts! SEAL book raises questions about bin Laden's death - Yahoo! News
I feel some things are best left alone. The SEAL's achieved their mission of ridding a terrorist leader and enemy of America. The writer of this book has just put a mark on his head, not to mention his family and possibly those in his team. Remember the Olympics in Munich? It didn't take Israel long to hunt down those who were responsible and even the score.
Efficiency: When in doubt, empty your magazine!
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08-29-2012, 02:16 PM
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#2 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 3,794
| I agree, leave it alone. You want to find out the truth? follow the money. Who stands to gain money by this account? The author. And the American press has just got to take advantage of any story to sell copy, no matter what the damages are.
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08-29-2012, 03:52 PM
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#3 | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530
| I haven't read the book, nor will I, but I did see some articles about this where the Seal team was just floored at how this was handled by the Administration. The "official" story was nowhere near what really happened, and they had gotten out a boatload of intelligence (who was hiding where) that was made completely useless because the President had to get on the air and brag that he "got" Osama Bin Laden.
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08-29-2012, 04:37 PM
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#4 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Richton Park, Illinios Posts: 2,987
| The book was supposed to be released on 9-11, but it has been moved up a week (9-4). I'm not going to run out and buy it. I'll wait and read it later. I'm more interested in how this will all play out.
Efficiency: When in doubt, empty your magazine!
"If you become involved in a crisis situation, you will not rise to the occasion but, rather, default to your level of training." |
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08-29-2012, 04:40 PM
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#5 | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 256
| I think that what happens in the military should stay in the military. I don't know why there is always such a need by some people to run out and have their fifteen minutes of fame.
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08-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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#6 | Forester
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Minden, NV Posts: 1,625
| It is probably best to leave this story alone. But I have to totally disagree with JeepThrills. The military has tremendous autonomy as it is. To let them do whatever they want is to aske for trouble, fascism even. I remember when the US invaded Laos and Cambodia and Nixon wouldn't admit it to anyone.
I have worked on many military contracts with environmental problems. Their attitude is almost always- we do what we want. Leave us alone.
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08-30-2012, 08:44 PM
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#7 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 503
| OPSEC. We should give no clues as to who our specialists are, where they train, how many there are, tactics they use and any other items which should be and stay classified under the penalty of treason.
You can't be the best of the best if everyone else can know what you know and learn to duplicate it.
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08-30-2012, 09:11 PM
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#8 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Richton Park, Illinios Posts: 2,987
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Originally Posted by ppine It is probably best to leave this story alone. But I have to totally disagree with JeepThrills. The military has tremendous autonomy as it is. To let them do whatever they want is to aske for trouble, fascism even. I remember when the US invaded Laos and Cambodia and Nixon wouldn't admit it to anyone.
I have worked on many military contracts with environmental problems. Their attitude is almost always- we do what we want. Leave us alone. | The military as a whole does not do what it wants, it's directives come from higher. Now, a small unit or even a few men may over step their boundaries and do something questionable or even illegal. They will be held accountable for it. But in a raid that took place like the one we're speaking of here, you can't question every little move. I truly believe that the first original story released by the White House was in fact inaccurate most likely fabricated by White house staff. Give the people what they want to hear. Most of us bought that story, I can take it or leave it.
As far as the military having a "leave us alone" attitude. It's mainly because anytime civilian contractors work around us they feel privy to know what's going on. It's none of there business. If you want to stick you nose in military business, join the military.
Efficiency: When in doubt, empty your magazine!
"If you become involved in a crisis situation, you will not rise to the occasion but, rather, default to your level of training." |
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08-30-2012, 09:18 PM
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#9 | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Richton Park, Illinios Posts: 2,987
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Originally Posted by Lorax OPSEC. We should give no clues as to who our specialists are, where they train, how many there are, tactics they use and any other items which should be and stay classified under the penalty of treason.
You can't be the best of the best if everyone else can know what you know and learn to duplicate it. | Right on! It's a large portion of the population and media that glorifies war and the military. It's not the Military that's out there pounding their chest saying "look at me"!
Efficiency: When in doubt, empty your magazine!
"If you become involved in a crisis situation, you will not rise to the occasion but, rather, default to your level of training." |
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08-31-2012, 06:48 AM
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#10 | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 168
| I wouldn't give this book any attention, it is a waste of paper! Bin Laden was the biggest terrorist in the world, responsible for thousands of deaths in the past 20 years. The only reason this is being dragged up is for money.
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