I did a bit of shopping around to get some for my hubby for Christmas, until he mentioned that I'll be the one taking the girls shoeing, because he doesn't really like it, LOL. Anywho, the reviews I read actually said that the YCs were very comparable to Tubbs or Redfeather, not quite as good as Atlas or MSR. In other words, they're said to be a very good shoe for recreational/casual use. For $45, I'm tempted to pick a pair up for hubby and make him go.