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Old 12-14-2012, 11:30 AM   #31
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Coleman fuel is quite dependable, but a bit "sporty" to ignite.

The commercial ones (Coughlin's) work pretty well too. For homemade , its hard to beat cotton balls and vaseline. The little votive light candles are pretty good too, but the flame is really small.


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Old 12-14-2012, 11:32 AM   #32
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A friend of mine made that years ago. Freaky stuff. Burns a long time and leaves a black tar like stuff behind. Not sure I'd want to carry a lot of that around.
Ah, yes- the Anarchist's Cookbook "firestarter" Very very effective indeed...for lots of things...


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Old 12-14-2012, 11:47 AM   #33
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Hi everyone. I was reading through this thread because I'm planning our first camping trip and needed some ideas about fire starters. I keep seeing cotton balls soaked in Vaseline - is that like the easiest/best/cheapest fire starter out there?




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I wouldn't necessarily say "soaked" in Vaseline, but rather 'coated' in Vaseline. (Just my preference).


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Old 12-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #34
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I melted some candle wax onto dryer lint. It got a little clumpy and didn't want to catch, so I added more lint and sort of mixed it with the waxy stuff. The result is a lightly waxed yet still puffy lint.

The stuff catches well and burns for a while. There are some chunks of wax mixed in with the lint, and as it burns the chunks melt and provide a steady fuel.

If I had to improvise quickly, I imagine that it'd work fine if you took some normal lint and put a small chunk of wax in it. Because that's more or less how candles and oil lamps work.


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Ga welcome to the forum. Pends pon what kind of camping ya gona be doing. The cotton ball,dryer lint stuff is best for the weight concous back packers. If ya planning a car trip to a camp ground It's hard to beat charcoal lighter fluid like for bbqing. When tent camping in a campground its good to bring if ya bbqing and works well on camp fires.


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I like using generic petroleum jelly (dollar store Vaseline) and large cotton balls and empty toilet paper rolls, thanks to this forum.

I get the large size container, since it's so cheap, and set it in about 1/2-inch almost-boiling water in a pan at home (you don't want to melt the plastic container). Wait for the entire container's contents to "liquifiy" and then take some needle-nose pliers (or multitool) and dip each large-size cottonball into the vaseline, then stuff them into the used toilet paper rolls. Once each t.p. roll is filled, I wrap the roll, lengthwise, with masking tape so none of the cotton balls fall out. These things burn forever to get some wood going up in flames. Especially useful for damp/wet wood.

I like to fill a gallon-size Ziploc baggie with these. Extremely cheap, extremely lightweight, extremely useful, waterproof, and works fantastic. Better than any off-the-shelf firestarter that I've ever used (Duraflame and Coleman brands). The cardboard of the t.p. rolls will eventually be soaked with petroleum jelly from the inside, hence the Ziplock baggie. I like to use my pliers from my multi-tool to take them out of the bag and place in fire pit. Dual-use also, since now you have a source of Vaseline for cracked lips or knuckles or whatever for emergency reasons.

For car camping, I like to have 2 to 6 half-egg-cartons filled with dryer lint handy also, since the cottonball method takes more time to prepare. Simply put a squirt of Ronsonol lighter fluid (that I use in my Zippo) on the lint at time of fire, and let her rip. Also lightweight. I store these in gallon Ziplock baggies also so I don't have lint all over in a tote.

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P.S. I wouldn't recommend only using lighter fluid. I've found that I use a lot sometimes trying to get a fire going and stay lit, especially with damp/wet fire wood -- And lighter fluid is pricey!

For fire-building, find some twigs and build a teepee with an opening for to place/light the firestarter, then get it lit, then add some larger wood. I like to find a large fallen tree limb or 2 (this is where digging a hole comes in handy) and place on top lastly (with the middle of limb(s) in the fire, preferably 2 limbs to make a "+") -- even if it's 20ft long -- The fire will "cut" the limb for you. I like to dig a "dome" fire pit when camping primitively, as this lets more oxygen under the fire, versus a dug out hole with completely vertical sides. Some people make holes in the dirt around the firepit -- I've yet to do this.

Tip: Teepee fires burn wood quicker than "log cabin" style fires. There's a hundred different ways to stack wood in a fire for different purposes -- Google them. I like to use a teepee/log-cabin hybrid fire. Here's one link with a few architectures listed:
http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Campfire

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P.P.S. Be sure to extinguish the fire totally with dirt or sand or water before hitting the hay sack, especially with those long limbs. This is another reason why I like the Vaseline cotton ball method for restarting a damp fire pit in the mornings, since they're waterproof and burn a long time. Finally, make sure the fire pit isn't "hot" when leaving the campsite -- I wonder how many critters have burned their paws/hooves/talons from some hot dirt or sand covering a fire pit -- Try to overdose it with water before covering back up with soil and/or sand before you permanently leave the campsite.

Happy fire starting!


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Our sister lives next to a farm where they plant acres of cotton every couple of years. We bagged up leftover cotton bolls one year and took them camping with us just to see how they'd do as fire starters. The dried plants themselves were the best part for getting the fire going.


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Our sister lives next to a farm where they plant acres of cotton every couple of years. We bagged up leftover cotton bolls one year and took them camping with us just to see how they'd do as fire starters. The dried plants themselves were the best part for getting the fire going.
The cotton itself is mostly cellulose, like paper, and would burn fairly quickly, but without generating much heat. It might even burn out because the filaments are so fine that they don't generate enough heat to sustain the fire.

The vaseline is a hydrocarbon and much higher in energy content. The cotton filaments in this case give it much more surface area to burn on, rather than pool like the wax on top of a candle.


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^ Yeah, the cotton balls are used to only give "space" and "air" to the petroleum jelly. You wouldn't want set an entire container of Vaseline on fire, since it'd be such a waste (and bad for the ground) -- and you wouldn't want to use only cotton. But the two make a good marriage, especially when stuffed in an empty toilet paper roll.



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The whole tub of Vaseline might not burn anyway. Not enough surface exposed to oxygen. Same as throwing a lit match into an open gas container. Often it only burns a little, if at all, then goes right out.


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