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Old 06-25-2011, 09:12 PM   #11
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That site looks the work of some nutter. I never trust information from web sites like that. If I did, I'd probably think that vaccination is a bad idea when it is in fact the best thing in the history of mankind to happen to us in terms of health.

I burn pretty easily if I'm in direct sunlight, and I don't tan well at all. So, until I see a double blind peer reviewed study come out of the NIH or Cell or something equally reputable, I'm putting sun screen on.


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Old 06-26-2011, 06:43 AM   #12
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I didn't use sunscreen years ago, now instead of that lovely golden tan which developed after the first light burn, my skin goes red like a lobster in a pot and after a week of red tender pealing, the pigment collects in spots- look like an appaloosa year round.

I put on something unscented whenever I go out on the water.


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Old 06-26-2011, 02:55 PM   #13
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Strangely interesting viewpoint. I would have loved to see some evidence of research and experiments to back up the claim. Anyway, I am dark too but I use sunscreen on my face only.


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Old 06-27-2011, 09:01 AM   #14
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I put that firmly in the category of ecoscams/healthscare scams, along with electrical transmission lines causing cancer, the magnetic fields in electric blankets causing cancer, aspartame causing too many ailments to mention, chemtrails and all the other stuff put out there to sell books and newsletters to the gullible.

My $0.02.
Well, a lot of the stuff you just mentioned in your post are already proven so you might wanna check your pockets for those 2c again.


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Old 06-27-2011, 09:41 AM   #15
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Actually NONE of those are proven.

The "studies" mainly consist of the statistical equivalent of shooting randomly into the side of a barn and then painting a bullseye around the largest cluster of holes and calling yourself a marksman. These things were largely ginned up by plaintiff's attorneys trying for the next big class action.

Believe as you will- no skin off my nose.


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Old 06-27-2011, 09:48 AM   #16
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I don't have much of a choice. If I don't use sunscreen, I burn like a piece of meat on a too hot grill. I've had sunburn so bad at one point that my feet and legs swelled up about three times their size. I don't really think this is a legit claim.

Holy crap! I have never had a burn like that. It has been maybe ten years since I had a burn that hurt. I do turn red but that's just ancestry. My shoulders will turn red and my wife will walk up and run her fingernails across my shoulder when I'm not looking. She calls it a sunburn check and says I would jump and scream if it were a burn.


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I actually wouldn't be surprised that there wasnt some truth to it! all in all... it is all chemicals, and thats never a good thing. I'm with ChadTowers first post... I'd rather just cover up and prevent burns that way.


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Old 06-27-2011, 10:55 AM   #18
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C'mon guys, everything is made up of chemicals.

Just because it's "natural" doesn't mean it's safe or good. Strychnine is "all natural" and it will kill you as dead as anything ever made in a lab. Ricin (naturally occuring in Castor Beans) is perhaps the most toxic substance known, and even cashews have to be cooked before you can eat them to destroy the toxic glycosides in them.

Even something as innocuous as water will kill you if you drink enough of it, fast enough.

Chemical does not = "bad" and Natural does not = "good".


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Ricin (naturally occuring in Castor Beans) is perhaps the most toxic substance known
Ricin has an LD50 of about 22 micrograms per kilogram. Botulinum toxin has an LD50 of about 1 nanogram per kilogram. Botox has ricin by a pretty handy margin.

But it's still natural. Which is your point. I'm just nitpicking because I'm a biologist and I can't let stuff like that slide. (:


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I stand corrected, then. Nitpick away!


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