You're right Lamebeaver, that is a pain having to pull it out each time. Especially if you go through it quick. Also, depending on what style you have and how you have your gear packed, it can be a real PITA! Lorax as far as having to check the bladder, I just wait until I stop getting water, then if need be I go to my bottles. But the more I look at it, the more I think, "what's the hurry, why can't I stop and have a drink", I think the old military days and marathon geocaching of always having to be on the move and no time to stop are what's steering my judgement here. I think the Camelbak is more suited for biking, more convenient than reaching below for a bottle. I think I might end up re-configuring my set up here. Thanks!